Conversations With A Troll
Wednesday, December 15, 2010 at 11:51AM [I deleted the vlog because it was kinda troll bait lol]
I'll admit I'm a pretty reactive, emotional person, but I've never quite understood the mind of a troll. I mean, if someone is in my face, I can act like a real douchebag, but I've never hunted someone else down to be a douchebag. And yet, here on the Internet, especially on YouTube, this behavior is expected with a shrug. But I just don't get it.
A friend of mine on Facebook once said, "you kind of have to expect this kind of thing when you decide to be an internet personality." I responded with, "just because you know the water's going to be cold doesn't mean you won't shiver." I'm still getting used to the trolls, and I still don't understand them.
On my most recent troll, I really tried to understand, in a Chris Hansen sort of way. It went as follows.
Troll (on my Illuminati video): This videos is retarded the bitch is a moron. Fuckin buffoon.
Troll (on my channel): Fuckin moron.
Me (on my channel): LoL and "fucking moron" intelligently and rationally proves me wrong how? ;) Behold idiocy, my executives! XD
Troll (PM): No proof needed, you're just a douche, a kiss ass of anything main steam with childish opinions who loves the sound of her own voice. I'm sure you think its cute but I can not find any thing agreeable with you.
Me (PM): How is this message productive? I'm really curious about your opinion.
Troll (PM): Dont bother, you should just apologise.
Me (PM): Okay, so how does profanity and stereotypically "trolling" behavior inspire one to give an apology? I really want to know. To declare your position with outward aggression and abuse generally inspires a negative, defensive, and emotional response. I'm sure you're well aware of this. Picture, for a moment, my reading of your comments. Can you imagine me responding with "gee, I really offended this person. How terrible of me. I better apologize." Isn't it more likely that a person would read this, get really pissed off, and fueled by emotion, either argue with or ignore everything you have to say? Think about it.
Troll (PM): You again Jesus give me strength, just apologize and get it over with.
Me (PM): You have yet to explain to me for what I must apologize.
And he hasn't responded. You think he will? And this warrants some discussion - do you think he ACTUALLY expects an apology? Or did he have different goals?
UPDATE:
Troll (PM): I don't see why you feel the need to drag this out. Haven't you got other things to do apart from being rude. May God have mercy on your soul.
Me (PM): Hmm. Interesting approach. You negate your previous curse-ridden outbursts and rationality-absent arguments, and now accuse me of being "rude." Furthermore, to paint yourself as righteous and myself as in the wrong, you use the name of God. Fascinating. Tell me, where did you learn this approach? Has it been reinforced with past experience? Do you often find that you can say whatever you want to people, and if they dare defend their positions, you can simply guilt trip them into silence by saying "god bless you?" Has this taught you that you needn't take responsibility for your irrational, abusive remarks on the internet? Or do you behave this way in person too?
I perhaps he raises a valid question. Why am I dragging this out? Because I don't like the idea of people "getting away" with this kind of behavior.
UPDATE:
Troll (PM): BE GONE SATAN, You have no authority here. Repent before its to late.
Me (PM): Is that really the best you can do?
And since we're talking about God, and Satan, consider the Christian point of view of profanity, since you used it so unabashedly in your initial messages toward me.
"With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men who are made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things should not be this way" (James 3:9-10). Christians should honor the purpose of speech by using our mouths to praise God and leading others to obey the Lord through faith in Jesus Christ. Every word we speak should be "gracious" and "seasoned with salt" (Col. 4:6). "Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes--these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God." (Ephesians 5:4)
I believe I could cite other sources that consider use of profanity presenting yourself as an unfit witness, but I haven't the time to track such things down.
Which of us owes an apology?
I think I'm gonna stop now because now I feel like I'm picking on a retarded person. :/
FYI I feel morally obligated to point out I accidently quoted Ephesians twice in my real message to him, and also sent him a follow up apologizing for that.
UPDATE:
I take back my statement that this little game was over with. Shit just got real.
Me (PM): Forgive my last message, I accidentally quoted Ephesians 5:4 twice. ;)
Troll (PM): Apology accepted, there that wasn't so hard was it,don't you feel better?
Me (PM): I apologized for posting a bible quote twice. You asked me for an apology long before this incident took place, so this message makes no logical sense. I still have yet to apologize for what you initially asked for an apology for. :( Interesting attempt at achieving dominance in this little non-debate we're having, though. I'm clearly still winning, and you have yet to give me a single argument. This is getting boring.
Now I'm angry.
I'm really disappointed in myself. I initially genuinely wanted answers, and I let him piss me off. I can barely believe it...
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